In this episode of the Income Flip Podcast, Rob Chevez sits down with Neal Bawa, known as the “Mad Scientist of Real Estate,” to unpack how data—not opinions—drives smarter investing. A former Silicon Valley executive, Neal shares how discovering the power of depreciation and tax strategy led him into real estate, and how he slowly transitioned from tech to building a multifamily portfolio. The conversation dives deep into using job growth, population trends, and demographic data to rank markets, why most investors misunderstand growth states, and how to identify emerging opportunities before the crowd. If you want to invest based on numbers instead of noise, this episode is a masterclass in data-driven real estate strategy.

Neal Bawa is the Founder and CEO of Grocapitus and Mission10K, data-driven commercial real estate investment firms focused on multifamily and build-to-rent assets across the United States. Known as the “Mad Scientist of Multifamily,” Neal applies advanced analytics and demographic research to identify high-growth markets and opportunities. He oversees a portfolio spanning thousands of units and hundreds of millions in assets under management.

Through his education platform, MultifamilyU, he has trained tens of thousands of investors on using data to evaluate markets and reduce risk. Neal is a sought-after speaker and thought leader, emphasizing evidence-based investing over speculation. His mission is to help investors build long-term wealth by combining technology, transparency, and disciplined execution.

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In this episode of the Income Flip Podcast, Rob Chevez sits down with Neal Bawa, known as the “Mad Scientist of Real Estate,” to unpack how data—not opinions—drives smarter investing. A former Silicon Valley executive, Neal shares how discovering the power of depreciation and tax strategy led him into real estate, and how he slowly transitioned from tech to building a multifamily portfolio. The conversation dives deep into using job growth, population trends, and demographic data to rank markets, why most investors misunderstand growth states, and how to identify emerging opportunities before the crowd. If you want to invest based on numbers instead of noise, this episode is a masterclass in data-driven real estate strategy.

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